Behringer reliability
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I just had a Behringer bass amp die on me after a year and a half of use. I’m looking for any feedback I can get on whether this is typical for Behringer amps or if I just had some bad luck. Any experience with this? Thanks
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>I just had a Behringer bass amp die on me after a year and a half of >use. I’m looking for any feedback I can get on whether this is typical >for Behringer amps or if I just had some bad luck. Any experience with this? >Thanks
When buying the least expensive amp you can find in a certain range of performance, reliability is usually the first thing to suffer. I know several dealers that have dropped Behringer because they are just not worth the effort. I would say that for SS amps, Behringer has one of the higher failure rates while for Tube amps it seems to be Crate. No surprise they are the least expensive in their genre. As a Peavey rep said once, the US built amps are about quality every time, each and every amp should be as good as every other amp while the Chinese built amps (their Valve King) are all about acceptable failure rates. If you happen to get a good one so much the better. The cheaper the amp, the higher the acceptable failure rate. — Bob Mann 85 K100RS (traded for…) 04 FXD (traded for…) 04 FLHTCUI (on its way)
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> I just had a Behringer bass amp die on me after a year and a half of > use.
That sounds about right. So whats your question?
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I just had a Behringer bass amp die on me after a year and a half of >use. I’m looking for any feedback I can get on whether this is typical >for Behringer amps or if I just had some bad luck. Any experience with this? >Thanks >When buying the least expensive amp you can find in a certain range of >performance, reliability is usually the first thing to suffer. >I know several dealers that have dropped Behringer because they are >just not worth the effort. >I would say that for SS amps, Behringer has one of the higher failure >rates while for Tube amps it seems to be Crate. >No surprise they are the least expensive in their genre. >As a Peavey rep said once, the US built amps are about quality every >time, each and every amp should be as good as every other amp while >the Chinese built amps (their Valve King) are all about acceptable >failure rates. >If you happen to get a good one so much the better. The cheaper the >amp, the higher the acceptable failure rate.
The Peavey Rep’s explanation seems reasonable. I think that if you’re going to attempt to rely on Behringer amps, that you need to have a spare. Or two. Preferably, an American amp that’ll always work. But at $200 or $300 for a Behringer amp, that’s an attractive price. You still have to add the cost of the amp you plan to replace it with though. FWIW though, the Behringer bass amp head that I got a chance to hear a couple years back was a great sounding amp! Light as a feather though, so I figured that it wasn’t long for this world. Pete — I forgot to mention that super chicken eggs have acid yokes. –Writer’s Convenience
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> I just had a Behringer bass amp die on me after a year and a half of > use. I’m looking for any feedback I can get on whether this is typical > for Behringer amps or if I just had some bad luck. Any experience with > this? > Thanks
Behringer is land fill waiting to happen. You cannot fix one for the price of a used replacement. I’ve read several reports like yours.
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>> I just had a Behringer bass amp die on me after a year and a half of > use. I’m looking for any feedback I can get on whether this is typical > for Behringer amps or if I just had some bad luck. Any experience with > this? > Thanks >Behringer is land fill waiting to happen. You cannot fix one for the >price of a used replacement. I’ve read several reports like yours.
But Pixie loves to recommend Behringer. Perhaps he can chime in with his defense here, if he’s not too busy spamming us with his propaganda that is…
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> I just had a Behringer bass amp die on me after a year and a half of > use. I’m looking for any feedback I can get on whether this is typical > for Behringer amps or if I just had some bad luck. Any experience with this? > Thanks
Planned obsolescence, GM used to do the same thing in the 60’s and 70’s… at 80,000 miles the cars would poop out enableing them to sell more cars. Then when Toyota came to the USA, GM got their arse kicked and it’s still getting kicked. My experience with a Behringer mixer was the same, about a year and a half.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> I just had a Behringer bass amp die on me after a year and a half of >> use. I’m looking for any feedback I can get on whether this is typical >> for Behringer amps or if I just had some bad luck. Any experience with >> this? >> Thanks >Behringer is land fill waiting to happen. You cannot fix one for the >price of a used replacement. I’ve read several reports like yours. >But Pixie loves to recommend Behringer.
That’s obviously not a very good recommendation! >Perhaps he can chime in with >his defense here, if he’s not too busy spamming us with his propaganda >that is…
That oughta be good. And I don’t mean "good" in a good way. Pete — You’ll barely regret this. –Fry
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>I just had a Behringer bass amp die on me after a year and a half of >use. I’m looking for any feedback I can get on whether this is typical >for Behringer amps or if I just had some bad luck. Any experience with this?
No clue as to their amps, but I got a Composer Pro Gate/Comp/Limiter, and a 2/3 way stereo/mono X-over that have both been working well for me for quite a few years. Amp’s a QSC though, just "because". I use da whole setup both for a bass rig and as a pa for solo acting. Texas Pete
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> loves to recommend Behringer
It’s one of the things that I recommend. For someone wanting a variety of sounds with only $250 to spend and light use in mind it’s great. I also recommend the THD Univalve with an Avatar 2×12 speaker cabinet or a Mesa-Boogie Mark 3 1×12 combo but you can’t pick up either of those outfits for $250. Ampeg’s B100R (100 watt, 1×15) bass combo is nice too.
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> That’s obviously not a very good recommendation!
My recommendation for you would be that you stop staring at the dog while you jerk off but you’ve been doing that for such a long time that it’s ingrained.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> I just had a Behringer bass amp die on me after a year and a half of >> use. I’m looking for any feedback I can get on whether this is typical >> for Behringer amps or if I just had some bad luck. Any experience with >> this? >> Thanks >Behringer is land fill waiting to happen. You cannot fix one for the >price of a used replacement. I’ve read several reports like yours. > But Pixie loves to recommend Behringer. Perhaps he can chime in with > his defense here, if he’s not too busy spamming us with his propaganda > that is…
Of what I’ve seen, some of it is propaganda while others are snapshots in time (uhhhh, get it?) of the Repubs fucking things up, royally. He uses the "O.T.". Instead of wigging out, use a filter? Behringer sucks. bk
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> I just had a Behringer bass amp die on me after a year and a half of > use. I’m looking for any feedback I can get on whether this is typical > for Behringer amps or if I just had some bad luck. Any experience with > this?
I have talked to several dealers who have said that they stopped selling Behringer amps due to problems. That said, my daughter has a Behringer AC112 guitar amp, that we bought used last spring. Before that it had seen extensive service at a guitar school. So far there haven’t been any problems and I have even borrowed it for a gig. Klas
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I just had a Behringer bass amp die on me after a year and a half of > use. I’m looking for any feedback I can get on whether this is typical > for Behringer amps or if I just had some bad luck. Any experience with > this? > Thanks > Planned obsolescence, GM used to do the same thing in the 60’s and > 70’s… at 80,000 miles the cars would poop out enableing them to sell > more cars. Then when Toyota came to the USA, GM got their arse kicked > and it’s still getting kicked. > My experience with a Behringer mixer was the same, about a year and a > half.
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I use a Behringer Pro 9000 mixer after I sold my Mackie. Also a Feedback Destroyer, two 4 channel compressor limiters, even a V-Amp on occasion – it’s got one or two sounds that I like. No problems so far. YMMV. Goldtop
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I just had a Behringer bass amp die on me after a year and a half of >use. I’m looking for any feedback I can get on whether this is typical >for Behringer amps or if I just had some bad luck. Any experience with >this? > No clue as to their amps, but I got a Composer Pro > Gate/Comp/Limiter, and a 2/3 way stereo/mono X-over that have both > been working well for me for quite a few years. Amp’s a QSC though, > just "because". I use da whole setup both for a bass rig and as a pa > for solo acting. > Texas Pete
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> That said, my daughter has a Behringer AC112 guitar amp, that we bought > used last spring. Before that it had seen extensive service at a guitar > school. > So far there haven’t been any problems and I have even borrowed it for a > gig.
I think you get what you pay for is right. That said, I bought a new Behringer GX112 ‘Blue Devil’ from Musician’s Friend for 99 bucks (free shipping!) and am happy. If it dies in a year or two I won’t be out much. SG — So much to do. So few people to do it for me.
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> I just had a Behringer bass amp die on me after a year and a half of > use. I’m looking for any feedback I can get on whether this is typical > for Behringer amps or if I just had some bad luck. Any experience with this? > Thanks
They sound OK for the price, but as you found out, they’re unreliable as all get go. Not only that, but once they do fail, aside from replacing a speaker or jack, they’re nearly impossible to repair. –Mike Mike Schway | [Picture your favorite quote here]
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>> That’s obviously not a very good recommendation! >My recommendation for you would be that you stop staring at the dog >while you jerk off but you’ve been doing that for such a long time that >it’s ingrained.
Try hiring Blum to do your writing. At least he could have come up with something. — You’ll barely regret this. –Fry
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>>My recommendation for you would be that you stop staring at the dog >while you jerk off but you’ve been doing that for such a long time that >it’s ingrained.
Ah, now THAT’s A Spicey Humorball 
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Planned obsolescence, GM used to do the same thing in the 60’s and >70’s… at 80,000 miles the cars would poop out enableing them to sell >more cars. Then when Toyota came to the USA, GM got their arse kicked >and it’s still getting kicked. > Not in the 60’s and early 70’s, these were all steel cars. My 66 El > Camino is still hanging together but is starting to show signs of age. > It outlasted my 80 Honda (bought new) by 28 years (most all the plastic > parts went south after about 6 years and 120,000 miles). I drive this > Elky everyday. It has some 380,000 miles on it and is on the third > engine and second trans. My 67 El Camino runs deep 11’s and 115 mph in > the 1/4 mile. The chassis and body are completely original (including > the original 8.2" 10 bolt rear end, gears have been changed to 4.56:1 > ratio). The mid to late 70’s (‘73 on) is when GM’s cars started falling > apart. Lots more plastic parts. Gas mileage is a different story. That’s > where Toyota and the others kicked ass. > I know this doesn’t have anything to do with the OP question but I take > exception to the statement about ’60’s GM cars. > — > Pat > Long gone are the days of $8 kilos
Those El Caminos were great, we called them "flower trucks" because so many florists used them. They were an exception, as are the GM muscle cars which were great like my 68 Chevelle. I was thinking about the "Vega" and other throw aways. And the current GM’s are every bit as durable as a Toyota, they just have a marketing stigma that wont go away.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>Planned obsolescence, GM used to do the same thing in the 60’s and >>70’s… at 80,000 miles the cars would poop out enableing them to sell >>more cars. Then when Toyota came to the USA, GM got their arse kicked >>and it’s still getting kicked. >Not in the 60’s and early 70’s, these were all steel cars. My 66 El >Camino is still hanging together but is starting to show signs of age. >It outlasted my 80 Honda (bought new) by 28 years (most all the plastic >parts went south after about 6 years and 120,000 miles). I drive this >Elky everyday. It has some 380,000 miles on it and is on the third >engine and second trans. My 67 El Camino runs deep 11’s and 115 mph in >the 1/4 mile. The chassis and body are completely original (including >the original 8.2" 10 bolt rear end, gears have been changed to 4.56:1 >ratio). The mid to late 70’s (‘73 on) is when GM’s cars started falling >apart. Lots more plastic parts. Gas mileage is a different story. That’s >where Toyota and the others kicked ass. >I know this doesn’t have anything to do with the OP question but I take >exception to the statement about ’60’s GM cars. >– >Pat >Long gone are the days of $8 kilos > Those El Caminos were great, we called them "flower trucks" because so > many florists used them. They were an exception, as are the GM muscle > cars which were great like my 68 Chevelle. I was thinking about the > "Vega" and other throw aways. And the current GM’s are every bit as > durable as a Toyota, they just have a marketing stigma that wont go > away.
The ‘68 Chevelle RIPPED! I had a ‘69 Camaro. Ah, when America was…America (and we were young).
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Toyota Avalon. Designed in America, built in America. Sold in America. GM can’t lay off workers and off-shore their cars and trucks fast enough.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Planned obsolescence, GM used to do the same thing in the 60’s and > >70’s… at 80,000 miles the cars would poop out enableing them to sell > >more cars. Then when Toyota came to the USA, GM got their arse kicked > >and it’s still getting kicked. > Not in the 60’s and early 70’s, these were all steel cars. My 66 El > Camino is still hanging together but is starting to show signs of age. > It outlasted my 80 Honda (bought new) by 28 years (most all the plastic > parts went south after about 6 years and 120,000 miles). I drive this > Elky everyday. It has some 380,000 miles on it and is on the third > engine and second trans. My 67 El Camino runs deep 11’s and 115 mph in > the 1/4 mile. The chassis and body are completely original (including > the original 8.2" 10 bolt rear end, gears have been changed to 4.56:1 > ratio). The mid to late 70’s (‘73 on) is when GM’s cars started falling > apart. Lots more plastic parts. Gas mileage is a different story. That’s > where Toyota and the others kicked ass. > I know this doesn’t have anything to do with the OP question but I take > exception to the statement about ’60’s GM cars. > — > Pat > Long gone are the days of $8 kilos > Those El Caminos were great, we called them "flower trucks" because so > many florists used them. They were an exception, as are the GM muscle > cars which were great like my 68 Chevelle. I was thinking about the > "Vega" and other throw aways. And the current GM’s are every bit as > durable as a Toyota, they just have a marketing stigma that wont go > away.
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> Toyota Avalon. Designed in America, built in America. Sold in America. GM > can’t lay off workers and off-shore their cars and trucks fast enough.
You’re preaching to the choir about the Avalon, I bought my Avalon in 1995 (the first model year) because that year they priced them the same as the Camry. Sounded like a deal to me so I took the risk on a first model year. Well my Avalon now has 173,000 miles on it and it still runs like a clock, quiet and smooth. Just normal scheduled maintenance, be sure to change that timing belt at 100k and it will run a long time thereafter. The CV joints were about the only major part I’ve had to change and that is normal wear too. Of course you cant count tires and brakes against any car. I love my Avalon, but my neighbor has GM’s competing car to the Avalon and that is the Buick LeSabre. His is a 1995 too with over 100k miles, no problems either. I call the Avalon a "poor mans Lexus" and it really is that good.
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> I saw one of the new GTO’s >ran 11.70 with just a tune and tires. That’s much better than the muscle >cars of the 60’s.
Isn’t that the new made in Australia car?
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"Poor man’s Lexus" is a good description. Mine’s (the missus’ actually) a ‘98 with 150,000 and no maintenance issues whatsoever. I do hope GM and Ford have gotten it together but I won’t bet 30 grand plus on it. I’m faithfull about required maintenance and using OEM parts. I agree that tires, brakes, bulbs, even CV joints and torque converters are all wear items. My poor ‘90 Camry wagon is about due for a transaxle but it’s such a good car for hauling an amp and a couple of guitars that I can’t bear to part with it.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Toyota Avalon. Designed in America, built in America. Sold in America. GM > can’t lay off workers and off-shore their cars and trucks fast enough. > You’re preaching to the choir about the Avalon, I bought my Avalon in > 1995 (the first model year) because that year they priced them the same > as the Camry. Sounded like a deal to me so I took the risk on a first > model year. Well my Avalon now has 173,000 miles on it and it still > runs like a clock, quiet and smooth. Just normal scheduled > maintenance, be sure to change that timing belt at 100k and it will run > a long time thereafter. The CV joints were about the only major part > I’ve had to change and that is normal wear too. Of course you cant > count tires and brakes against any car. I love my Avalon, but my > neighbor has GM’s competing car to the Avalon and that is the Buick > LeSabre. His is a 1995 too with over 100k miles, no problems either. > I call the Avalon a "poor mans Lexus" and it really is that good.
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