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O.T. Studio Floor plan help from group

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I know this is less of an guitar amp question, but I usually get good advice from this group and I’d like some suggestions for the following floor plan: http://www.curbdog.org/studioplan/StudioFloorPlan.jpg I have just the desire to jam and record here. I have all the studio gear from my last house. The cellar is unfinished and new. The dimentions are just estimates, especially the iso booth. Anyway, aside from the sheetrocking, and basic floors, what should I do to make the room as good as I can? i.e. any of the aurolex sheetblock or dampaning stuff that goes inside the wall effecive? I don’t expect it to be sound proof, but I would want to reduce as much as possible escaping upstairs. SONEX ceiling tiles better than your standard HomeDepot acoustic rectangle?It has about an 9ft ceiling now. Being a cellar, is it worth doing the floating floor thing over the concrete? Anything that you might have done yourself that work out well? Again, mainly my band rehearsal, a place to record demos, and just to hang out in. I’ll have a contractor do most of it. $10,000 hopefully will get me there. Thanks for any suggestions or help. Bob Maggio Not a downstroke, fistpicker. www.curbdog.org

Response:

Nice floor plan, lucky dog. Soundproofing and acoustic treatment are not one and the same.  For example, a killer sounding room can and often does leak like a sieve.  Conversely a sealed bunker that is an audio black hole can sound like, well, recording in a bunker.  Search the web for soundproofing… There are sites with free info and cheap products. Definitely insulate main floor from your basement if you want to rehearse loud and unmolested.

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Nice room…  my only little bitty suggestion for the drawing… angle the window from the control room to the "main" room so you can see easily to the end… About sound insulation…  Although there seems to be plenty of info around about it, there doesn’t (or wasn’t 3 yrs ago) seem to be solid "advice" about what REALLY works… I insulated the SHIT out of my addition that I built and thank god I did… I still hear a lot but not NEARLY what I would if there was no insulation… Absolutely ‘isolate’ the ceiling in the whole studio from the floor of the living space above. Dont ‘hang’ the ceiling from the joist members of the floor above.  I would, if possible, build an entire ‘framed room’ inside the space…  frame the walls with ’staggered’ studs (even 2×3’s would probably suffice), use 2×6’s (accross the 10′ span) for the ceiling and stagger them too… insulate the spaces between the joists of the floor above… attach acoustic boards underneath the joist… then if you’re really into quiet… double drywall over that…!!!  no need to ‘finish’ it.. Then when you install the staggered ceiling joist of your studio, put acoustic fiberboard over it, ‘weave insulation (heavy) through the staggered joists, and use ‘hat track’ perpendicular to the joist to hang the sheet rock…  whew…!!! This will probably bring your ceiling down to around 8′…  and is a lot of work… but…  it’ll be pretty quiet…  if you fire up the Marshall stack and the drummer has heavy hands you’ll still be heard upstairs.. but it shouldn’t be ‘annoying’ to the point of distraction… Remember that ANY acoustic ‘leak’ will really make a difference of how much gets upstairs… How the room "sounds" will be more dependent on how you finish the inside walls…  I suppose you are looking for a "dead" room for recording… but for practicing, a ‘dead’ room can sound bad to your ears…  at least that’s my experience…  not always of course… but sometimes… Remember to angle the double windows to the booths… a friend of mine used ‘egg-crate’ mattress pads on the ceiling to deaden it… and tapestrys hung on the walls to deaden them (and it looks WAY cool)…. Good luck and let us know how it turns out…. gtski PS – a friend of mine just suggested another way to get a ‘ceiling’ up without doing ‘walls’.. it’s called something like  ’post’ construction…  basically four posts holding up the ceiling… then you can deal with the basement walls… keep the ceiling ‘tight’ to the walls though… I’m not sure how much sound would leak through the basement wall "UP" into the house above…  hmmm….  can’t even guess…

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know this is less of an guitar amp question, but I usually get good advice > from this group and I’d like some suggestions for the following floor plan: > http://www.curbdog.org/studioplan/StudioFloorPlan.jpg > I have just the desire to jam and record here. I have all the studio gear from > my last house. The cellar is unfinished and new. The dimentions are just > estimates, especially the iso booth. Anyway, aside from the sheetrocking, and > basic floors, what should I do to make the room as good as I can? i.e. any of > the aurolex sheetblock or dampaning stuff that goes inside the wall effecive? I > don’t expect it to be sound proof, but I would want to reduce as much as > possible escaping upstairs. SONEX ceiling tiles better than your standard > HomeDepot acoustic rectangle?It has about an 9ft ceiling now. Being a cellar, > is it worth doing the floating floor thing over the concrete? Anything that you > might have done yourself that work out well? Again, mainly my band rehearsal, a > place to record demos, and just to hang out in. I’ll have a contractor do most > of it. $10,000 hopefully will get me there. Thanks for any suggestions or help. > Bob Maggio > Not a downstroke, fistpicker. > www.curbdog.org

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